{"id":1187,"date":"2014-10-17T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-10-17T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/%20rroma.org\/17-10-2014-information-event-correct-and-incorrect-knowledge-much-about-rroma-in-france\/"},"modified":"2022-08-04T11:47:26","modified_gmt":"2022-08-04T10:47:26","slug":"17-10-2014-information-event-correct-and-incorrect-knowledge-much-about-rroma-in-france","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rroma.org\/fr\/17-10-2014-information-event-correct-and-incorrect-knowledge-much-about-rroma-in-france\/","title":{"rendered":"17.10.2014 Information event: correct and incorrect knowledge much about Rroma in France"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" class=\"MsoNormal\">Ouest-France (2014) \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\treports on an information event for residents of the Nantes agglomeration. The \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\ttowns of Saint-S\u00e9bastien et Saint-Jacques Saint organized the event to inform \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tthe residents of the municipalities on local Rroma. However, the focus was only \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\ton recently immigrated Rroma families, who enjoy strong public visibility. Already \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tintegrated Rroma were not discussed. In the municipalities, around 60 families live \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tin rented housing units and are supported by measures aimed at integrating them \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tinto the professional and social life. A further 38 persons live in illegal \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tsettlements. While the conveyed information is correct, it nevertheless distorts \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tthe view on Rroma. For example, it was incorrectly said that Rroma, Manouche \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tand Gitans are three different Rroma groups: <em>\u201cThe Roma are one of three European gypsy groups arriving from Romania, \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tBulgaria, Hungary, Slovakia, Serbia&#8230; They differ from the Manouches and the Gypsies, \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\twho are called \u201ctravellers\u201d by the administration. Originally from India, the \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tRoma arrived in Europe in the 14th century. Protected by the kings of Bohemia \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tin the 17th century, they are sometimes called Bohemians. [&#8230;] After 1989, \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tthey were attracted by the mirage of the West. 1,500 of the 20,000 in France \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tlive in the agglomeration of Nantes, all coming from the south-east of Romania.\u201d<\/em> \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tHowever, the differentiation between Rroma and Sinti, called Manouche in France, \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tis a political one. The Rroma all have the same migration history and \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tlinguistic background. The term \u201cGitans\u201d in turn is among some familiar as the \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tname of the Rroma from the Iberian Peninsula. However, they also build part of \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tthe Rroma, and are historically and linguistically no separate category. Also the \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tfinding that only 20,000 Rroma live in France, and that they come exclusively \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tfrom Romania, is wrong. Moreover, Rroma arrived in Eastern Europe in the 9th \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tcentury, not only in the 14th century, which is true for Western Europe. \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tAccording to estimates of the Rroma Foundation, i 100,000 to 500,000 Rroma live \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tin France. The majority of them are integrated, work, are fluent in French and \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tsend their children to school. Many have lived in France for generations, and \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tnot just since 1989, and come from all over Europe, not only from Romania. The \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\trecently immigrated Rroma, who enjoy strong public visibility, therefore \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tconstitute only a minority of the minority. <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Ouest-France (2014) \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tRoms : des paroissiens venus pour s&#8217;informer et comprendre. In: <em style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Ouest France online <\/em>vom 14.10.2014. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ouest-france.fr\/roms-des-paroissiens-venus-pour-sinformer-et-comprendre-2905046\" style=\"font-family: Arial;\">http:\/\/www.ouest-france.fr\/roms-des-paroissiens-venus-pour-sinformer-et-comprendre-2905046<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ouest-France (2014) reports on an information event for residents of the Nantes agglomeration. 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