{"id":1738,"date":"2013-01-25T01:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-01-25T01:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/%20rroma.org\/25-01-2013-rroma-and-edwards-saids-orientalism\/"},"modified":"2022-08-05T09:26:45","modified_gmt":"2022-08-05T08:26:45","slug":"25-01-2013-rroma-and-edwards-saids-orientalism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rroma.org\/fr\/25-01-2013-rroma-and-edwards-saids-orientalism\/","title":{"rendered":"25.01.2013 Rroma and Edwards Said&#8217;s Orientalism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Edwards Said\u2019s seminal book \u201cOrientalism\u201d is a convenient tool to more  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tclearly understand how knowledge about Rroma is produced and how it affects the  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tlive worlds of Rroma people in Western and Eastern Europe. It is another  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\texample of discourse analysis, and offers insights into structures of power  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tthat are involved when producing knowledge about other people.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Said examined (1978\/2010) how the Orient has been portrayed and  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tconstructed by Western science in form of <em>Orientalism<\/em>.  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tHow did and does Orientalism describe the Orient and how do these bodies of  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tknowledge work back onto reality? Said wants Orientalism to be seen as  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tknowledge that is embedded in postcolonial power relations. East and West are  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tseen as concepts that define themselves in relation and against each other. The  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tOrient has been used to define it as the counterpart, the anti-idea, and  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tcounter experience to the West. Said understands the Orient as well as the  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tOccident as constructed terms, that continue to change their meaning. Through  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tthe institutionalization of thinking about the Orient, Orientalism continually  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tlegitimized itself as the dominant, \u2018true\u2019 tale about the Orient. The term \u2018Orient\u2019  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tin contrast to Orientalism is used to refer to a perceived reality of what life  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tin the Orient is like. Said distanced himself from claiming to say how the  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\torient was really like. What he wanted to do is to deconstruct how Orientalists  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\ttalked about the Orient, and how their knowledge has nearly always been part of  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tunequal power relations between societies and people. Said disenchants the  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tknowledge of the Orientalists as portrayals, which run the risk of ascribing  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tlabels of value and race, which leads to the domination and disciplining of  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tpeople through this portrayals.\u00a0\u00a0  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Also the case of how Rroma are portrayed in media, by politicians and in  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\toral culture, mostly refers to a dominant \u2018tale\u2019, similar to what Said called  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tOrientalism. One could term it \u2018Antiziganism\u2019, but it is important to  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tunderstand that the dominant tale about Roma \u2013 disseminated by lots of people \u2013  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tdoesn\u2019t sees itself as racist, but as representing the truth, even though it  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\treflects stereotypes and is racist. This dominant \u2018tale\u2019, taking its knowledge  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tfrom centuries of passed down prejudices, negative interpretations and mixing  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tof identity with political issues, succeeds in dominating the way in which many  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tpeople see Rroma. Many journalists take their information from oral culture and  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tprint stereotypes as \u2018scientific reality\u2019, mixing criminal actives and  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tquestions of ethnic belonging, even though there is no connection between them.  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tRroma who engage in criminal activities or how live in slums dominate media  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tcoverage, silencing all the other positive aspects of Rroma identity. There are  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tno news reports on successful Rroma how live well adjusted in their society,  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\twork as a lawyer, as a bank clerk or as a writer. In Switzerland there life  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\taround 50\u2019000 Rroma, from whom the most are well integrated, work and engage in  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\ttheir everyday activities. Because of the domination of negative stereotypes,  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tmost of them keep their identity a secret. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Source:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Said, Edward (1978\/2010) Orientalismus.  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tFrankfurt am Main: S. Fischer Verlag.<\/li>\n<\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Edwards Said\u2019s seminal book \u201cOrientalism\u201d is a convenient tool to more clearly understand how knowledge about Rroma is produced and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_exactmetrics_skip_tracking":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_active":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_note":"","_exactmetrics_sitenote_category":0,"fifu_image_url":"","fifu_image_alt":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[14,16,15],"tags":[92,63,24,23,133],"class_list":["post-1738","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news-eastern-europe","category-news-switzerland","category-news-western-europe","tag-discrimination","tag-racism","tag-roma","tag-rroma","tag-stereotypes"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rroma.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1738","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rroma.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rroma.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rroma.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rroma.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1738"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/rroma.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1738\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12495,"href":"https:\/\/rroma.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1738\/revisions\/12495"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rroma.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1738"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rroma.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1738"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rroma.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1738"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}