The television program “Der Club” of the 																																																																		Swiss national television company arranged a discussion about the topic of 																																																																		Rroma as “hostile others”, appearing in public only in connection with negative 																																																																		events. The participants of the discussion were Stefan Heinichen of the Rroma 																																																																		Contact Point Zurich, Mustafa Asan, a Swiss-Macedonian dual citizen and Rroma, Alexander 																																																																		Ott, supervisor of the immigration authorities of the police corps Bern, Julia 																																																																		Kuruc, social worker for the women organization “Flora Dora”, Brigitte Hagmann, 																																																																		supervisor of the section West-Balkans of the DEZA and Martin Heule, a 																																																																		folklorist. The discussion started with the topic of Rroma being publicly 																																																																		present as beggars and what backgrounds and motives there are to this activity. 																																																																		The participants agreed upon the insight to differentiate between Rroma 																																																																		identity and the criminal activities – begging or more explicitly organized 																																																																		begging, is prohibited in many Swiss cities. More importantly however, it was 																																																																		criticized that criminal activities are often hasty and uncritically attributed 																																																																		to Rroma, even though most people are not capable of identifying the language 																																																																		Rromanes or other markers of Rroma identity. Therefore, there is a picture of criminal 																																																																		Rroma, which is actively produced and spread by public actors as the police, 																																																																		un-reflected media and public persons, which builds on prejudices and lacking 																																																																		knowledge about Rroma. Not rarely, people of East-European origin, which are 																																																																		not Rroma and who engage in criminal activities, are identified as Rroma.
Another important aspect is the striking 																																																																		poverty of many minority groups in Eastern Europe, often even big parts of the 																																																																		entire population. This socio-economic hardships force people to organize and 																																																																		band with each other in order to overcome lacking means of financial income. 																																																																		Organized begging – as Julia Kuruc states – is therefore often not a choice, 																																																																		but a necessity for survival. 
The negative stereotypes attributed to 																																																																		Rroma are so strongly anchored in many European societies, that also in 																																																																		Switzerland, people of Rroma origin are often reluctant to publicly state their 																																																																		Rroma identity. The consequences can be social exclusion, the strengthening of 																																																																		prejudices against persons and consequently more disadvantages. Therefore, many 																																																																		Rroma prefer to label themselves with their nationality and keep their ethnic 																																																																		identity a secret. 
Mustafa Asan stated, that from his 																																																																		viewpoint, the events concerning Rroma are often reduced to a perspective of 																																																																		majority-society, excluding problems as the lacking will of majorities to 																																																																		integrate and support Rroma and therefore change their ongoing problem of 																																																																		exclusion and discrimination. Stefan Heinichen added, that one should stop to 																																																																		speak of a “Rroma problem” but start to speak of a societal problem. Of 																																																																		European society, which still has striking problems in integrating Rroma 																																																																		economically, socially and politically. Brigitte Hagmann criticized the lacking 																																																																		efforts of many East-European governments to actively change the miserable 																																																																		situations of Roma. On the other hand, it would be to simple to ascribe Rroma 																																																																		just to role of victims, but that it is necessary that Rroma themselves deploy 																																																																		an active part in changing their situations long- and short-term. 
Another aspect is the difficulty of portraying 																																																																		the way Rroma really life. Life worlds of Rroma are very diverse, depending on 																																																																		their family and national history, their religion, their insisting on 																																																																		traditions or their subsequent softening and alteration, their group membership 																																																																		and social integration. Heinichen clearly hesitates when asked to explain Rroma 																																																																		traditions.   
As goal to improve the conditions of 																																																																		Rroma the participants identify better integration into the education system 																																																																		and better embedding and access to the economic sphere. Also, the problem of 																																																																		severe poverty of many people in Eastern Europe, which is important to separate 																																																																		from the topic of Rroma, has to be addressed.
Also the German television program «Menschen 																																																																		bei Maischberger» on ARD elaborated on the notion of Rroma as hostile others. 																																																																		Only seven days after the Swiss program, it joined elected green politician 																																																																		Claudia Roth, Christian-civil politician Joachim Herrmann, supervisor of the Central Council 																																																																		of Roma and Sinit in 																																																																		Germany Romani Rose, Rroma 																																																																		attorney Nizaqete Bislimi and Swiss journalist Philipp Gut from the «Weltwoche» 																																																																		in a discussion. The debate also started with the elaboration on the 																																																																		established negative stereotypes about Rroma, which since several hundred years 																																																																		continue to negatively influence the life worlds of Rroma. The discussion then 																																																																		continued with Philip Gut denouncing criminal activities of Rroma in 																																																																		Switzerland. He stated again and again, that his article in the «Weltwoche» was 																																																																		based on proofed facts, but he failed to intelligently distinguish criminal 																																																																		activities from the topic of Rroma identity and origins. Romani Rose and Claudia 																																																																		Roth therefore accused him of deliberately making a racist connection between 																																																																		ethnic origin and criminal activities. Gut defended himself by explaining that 																																																																		what he condemned was that certain Roma groups used children to implement 																																																																		burglaries, but that he didn’t accuse the Rroma as a whole of criminal 																																																																		activities. However, the mere fact, that he made a connection between Rroma and 																																																																		criminal activities, was enough to evoke the outrage of Romani Rose and other 																																																																		participants of the discussion. 
Taking side with Romani Rose’s viewpoint, 																																																																		the author wants to emphasize the importance of not making an undifferentiated 																																																																		connection between criminal activities and Rroma ethnic identity. The making of 																																																																		this connection fails to consider vital questions of respect and ethics towards 																																																																		an ethnic group as the Rroma.
Source: